I don't know if most of y'all know or not but I own a very small consulting company call Associate Innovations. Before I started working for AllPlayers.com I did a lot of php consulting and mainly worked with Zend Framework. In that time I started work on a product called Roommate Expense Buddy, or REB for short. it was built in Zend. Well one day I updated my operating system on my development box before checking to see if the backups I ftped over was good or not.